Paul Jay and Marc Steiner: Russophobia and the Mueller Investigation

Phenomenal discussion; transcript here. The framing is perfect: there are lots of issues here, let's take them one by one, and always with a realistic sense of history and the current political forces and their interests. I mean, there's no other rational way forward. This never pleases the propagandists, of course, who want to endlessly re-bleat "emotionally potent oversimplifications" in order to "manufacture consent." The Big Nothingburger faction and the Russia Delenda Est faction will unite in agreement in hating the framework of this discussion.